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Hi,
I have been making beats (tech/techhouse) for quite some time but have little musical theory knowledge. I usually just hit keys and if it sounds decent, roll with it... Just wondering, is there a general rumb of thumb that when making a track, you pick a scale and stick to it?
I.e. Say you want to start a fresh track, do you usually pick a scale first? So lets say I pick C Minor, does that mean the only notes i should use for the bassline / lead etc should all be within C Minor and i should never use any other notes?
Thanks for any help you can share!
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| Posted: Sun, 20 Apr, 2008 20:07 Post subject: Re: Selecting a scale? help |
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| stevetekk wrote: |
Hi,
I have been making beats (tech/techhouse) for quite some time but have little musical theory knowledge. I usually just hit keys and if it sounds decent, roll with it... Just wondering, is there a general rumb of thumb that when making a track, you pick a scale and stick to it?
I.e. Say you want to start a fresh track, do you usually pick a scale first? So lets say I pick C Minor, does that mean the only notes i should use for the bassline / lead etc should all be within C Minor and i should never use any other notes
Thanks for any help you can share!
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Steve, im no expert on "keys" or "Music Theory". i would go as far as saying that it helps tremondously if you know how to build the key notes within a track. You can tell the difference quite significantly. It's whats seperates the men from the boys in music production.
A few years back i put together a promo in my mates small studio & i remember I hadnt a clue where to start with the main melody and basslines, i didnt just want to hit a few notes and hope for the best. I wanted something that was structured, but i hadnt clue on how to go about it. So i went out that day and bought myself a Bob Marley music score book. I bascailly stripped down the basslines & melodys from my favorite bob Marley tunes and used those as my building blocks in creating the seperate elements of the track. it worked a treat!! |
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hey mate, cheers for the advice!
thats actually a great idea, i never thought of that. from what you say im thinking it wouldnt be such a bad idea to even grab some midi files of popular tunes to deconstruct and take it from there.
cheers again mate, excellent advice ;) |
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no worries mate. lets us know how you get on 
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if you wanna play in C minor for example you should really stick to the notes in the scale. you can add 7ths and all them in also to give it a bit more depth. you can always make the E flat an E if you wanted to but wen it sounds right you know?… key changes are common so you can go from a Cminor scale to a G minor for example. thats a pritty bug jump but becasue the scales are similar it sounds good.
hope that helps a bit
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cheers for the advice! so i was wondering, would it be (theoretically) ok to write the bassline in Cminor, then say the main lead in Gminor harmonic? or would it be more wise to use the same scale on each instrument? sorry for the repetition on the question, just trying to get a method going to my madness!
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Useful! |
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glad you found it useful...
hopefully this might come in handy as well...
I like to set my filter frequency with the root note as well...
waves rbass can give your bass a real punch!!!
here's a frequency chart I use all the time!
http://www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html
I guess you could use the wavelength to figure out the resonance frequency of a room to give your set a super resonanating big set in a club or party! Tesla was really into that kinda stuff... Anyone know a quick way to figure out the resonance frequency of a room without doing too many equations and measuring?
smiles.
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