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adam t
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 Posted: Wed, 23 Jul, 2008 21:53 Post subject: My Trance Music Guide.....I need your help!!!! |
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Some of you may know im in the process of making a guide on trance music after I was informed that I was quite knowlegable on the subject of trance music  by TigerLand and BalistiK.
Anywho, I have made a start and just published it for the 1st time and I was wondering if all of you guys could check it out every now and then and tell me what you think, whether I have missed something out, where i have made a mistake...you know just general up keeping stuff.
I wont be publishing it everytime i make ammendments...only when there has been a major update...then i will let you all know here with a post somewhere along the lines of:
TRANCE GUIDE UPDATE NOW PUBLISHED!!!
Feel free to make any comments, but please bare in mind this is my guide so it will be slightly swining to one or two sub genres but on the whole I feel I will give a sound judgement on all aspects of Trance.
Thanks in advance 
Oh yeah, the link to the site...duh me 
http://members.lycos.co.uk/electronicdancemusic/
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like the site man… where you got your sub genres on the side, you should add hard trance. ill help you out there if you get stuck 
otherwise lookin good!
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| Posted: Thu, 24 Jul, 2008 10:00 Post subject: |
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Thanks! Its pretty good i think for a free hosting site....there aint a load of adverts either which is good. Yeah, im going to need your help on hard trance becasue im not to sure whether what i have as hard trance is really "Hard Trance".
I have people like Marco V, Mauro Picotto (pre Techno), Members Of Mayday, Marcel Wood down as hard trance???
Im going to have to do a bit of homework on that one!!!
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wow… yeh you should lol
marco v and mauro picotto arent close to it. Marcel Woods has some hard stuff out. some wikid tunes to i mite add! Members of Mayday, head of em but havnt heard em. If you lookin Hard Trance:
Yakooza
DJ Scot Project
Hennes & Cold
Uberdruck
Organ Donors (Hard Trance / Hardstyle depending on how you look at it)
Kamui
Dr. Willis
Scot Alert
Vinylgroover & The Red Hed
Dave 202
BK
Anne Savage
Lisa Lashes
yeh i could go on n on but hardly any point at the end of the day…
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If you want to move this site to a proper host with professional features, let me know, I got a reseller account and im sure I can sort you a good deal and give you any help you need 
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QUALITY right there   
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See i knew you had a heart
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| If you want to move this site to a proper host with professional features, let me know, I got a reseller account and im sure I can sort you a good deal and give you any help you need |
Thanks...i will keep that in mind. I think at the moment it is ok as it is but if it ever got to be popular i might have to take you up on that
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wow… yeh you should lol
marco v and mauro picotto arent close to it. Marcel Woods has some hard stuff out. some wikid tunes to i mite add! Members of Mayday, head of em but havnt heard em. If you lookin Hard Trance:
Yakooza
DJ Scot Project
Hennes & Cold
Uberdruck
Organ Donors (Hard Trance / Hardstyle depending on how you look at it)
Kamui
Dr. Willis
Scot Alert
Vinylgroover & The Red Hed
Dave 202
BK
Anne Savage
Lisa Lashes
yeh i could go on n on but hardly any point at the end of the day… |
Good job i checked!
Thats helped a lot...i had quite a lot of thier stuff down as "Hard House" probs becasue it appears on "Harder" Cd's
So help me out here.....take BK for example.....is "Revoultion" Hard Trance but his remixes of Cortina's "Music Is Moving" and "Higher" Hard House then???
Lisa Lashes: What Can You Do For Me? is Hard House and Always Faithful is Hard Trance???
Im properly confused now 
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| Posted: Sat, 26 Jul, 2008 15:52 Post subject: |
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wow… yeh you should lol
marco v and mauro picotto arent close to it. Marcel Woods has some hard stuff out. some wikid tunes to i mite add! Members of Mayday, head of em but havnt heard em. If you lookin Hard Trance:
Yakooza
DJ Scot Project
Hennes & Cold
Uberdruck
Organ Donors (Hard Trance / Hardstyle depending on how you look at it)
Kamui
Dr. Willis
Scot Alert
Vinylgroover & The Red Hed
Dave 202
BK
Anne Savage
Lisa Lashes
yeh i could go on n on but hardly any point at the end of the day… |
Good job i checked!
Thats helped a lot...i had quite a lot of thier stuff down as "Hard House" probs becasue it appears on "Harder" Cd's
So help me out here.....take BK for example.....is "Revoultion" Hard Trance but his remixes of Cortina's "Music Is Moving" and "Higher" Hard House then???
Lisa Lashes: What Can You Do For Me? is Hard House and Always Faithful is Hard Trance???
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hard house and hard trance is easily confused.
Lisa Lashes for example: majority of her tracks are hard house / hard dance (Depends what you want to call it)
BK however has more hard trance tunes IMO umm… its a hard juggle sometimes but to help you a bit, most TIDY TRACKS are hard house labeled. Lisa Lashes use to apear on TIDY but now she's on her own label LASHED TRACKS (90% sure about that lol) BK im sure has appearences on TIDY TRACKS also.
this is where people get confused between hard house and hard trance… there hard house sounding but have the melodic break down of hard trance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnaYQ-CeRw4 (video quality is very poor but its the tune u wanna hear) this track is Red Snapper by K90
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I think i have it now....i have that track. Hard Trance basically has the synth patterns that are associated with Trance while Hard House doesnt tend to ahve them and is harder again in sound...its more driving.
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MAJOR UPDATE ON GUIDE......HARD TRANCE & DREAM TRANCE WRITTEN.....ALSO....MISLABELED TRACKS PAGE ADDED (IN PROGRESS)
Have a look and tell me what you think.
Note: all/most text is in draft stage at the moment (prehaps with Ibiza & Dutch being the exception).
BalistiK.....give me some honest feed back on Hard Trance....ts pretty poor at the moment i feel. Have you got some stuff i could add? Im going to do some research on it though.
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Does anyone actualy use the phrase *Dutch Trance* 
Beside Ibiza Trance you should add Club Trance, that covers your Above & Beyond,Smith & Pledger type stuff
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Dutch Trance isnt used today really becasue it only had a short spell (1999-2003) in which it was active. The closest thing to it today is from some of AATW's artists that use those synthy long notes although even now they are begining to phase out from AATW.
Its not a term in reference to those who make it...but a term to describe the sound/style associated with it. The name may have come about due to people like Ferry Corsten, Tiesto, Armin cashing in on it as they are all form the Netherlands i think???
As for "Club Trance" I think im going to put Above & beyond etc under some title like "Modern Epic" or something just because the trance from 1999 would ahve been "Club Trance" back then but isnt today and I cant really put it into Epic because it is totally different to For An Angel, better Off Alone fom back then.
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Okey Dokey Smokey
Just you mentioning For An Angel, i heard that the other night for the first time in ages and it brings back memories... such a great tune that
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Well hold on tight to those memories.....i havent got any 
I swear someone is trying to get me.....firstly i was born about 15 years to late to experience all that music first hand, i have just seen PVD is playing in Bristol August Bank Holliday...which of course i cant go to cos im not old enough  and i bet as soon as i turn 18 the club in Bristol that gets all these people to play will shut down or something!
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umm yeh your Hard Trance description is a bit of a funny one… ill help ya out in a tic
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