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MattReverie
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Hi all
I am a Producer of House, Trance and DNB music. I need to buy monitor speakers as I am only using headphones atm (Sennheiser HD25).
I was thinking of buying a pair of Yamaha NS10s on ebay. I know they are the industry standard but I was thinking maybe they wont suit dance music seeing as though dance music is heavily reliant on bass. Also they were in industry standard a while ago.
Are there any monitor speakers that are the industry standard or commonly used for my style of music?
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MrSoundCheck
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eBay features loads of monitor speakers that are offered at reasonable prices.
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CASSIOPLAY
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Hi Matt.
Do you know the Blue Sky Media Desk?
Try them if you have the chance.
The 2.1(2 sats and a sub) is great(but you have to adjust the sub to your room) and very affordable.
I use them at home and at the studio.They're my nearfields at the studio(Mackies HR824 for midfields).
I've worked some time with the Yamahas but it's really difficult to control the low end.
Another option would be active monitors from Tannoy and Krk.
If you can spend more money try Genelec and B&W.
The more important thing is that your mixes translate well outside your studio(ok this is a cliché lololol).
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BalistiK
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in a local music shop about a month ago and i stubled across Behringer.. . cant remember the model but they sounded sweet as
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dj teknovibe
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| Dynaudio monitors are excellent. I use to have a pair of bm15a's and they were so accurate, and you could mix on them for hours and hours with absolutely no fatigue your ears at all. Personally I think dynaudio make some of the best monitors in the world. |
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Kelly
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NS10s would not be suitable for dance music in general, especially House and Dnb. They dont have the low frequency extension.
I personaly would recommend a pair of the larger KrKs and possibly a sub. I'm normally not a fan of mixing music on them, but for dance - they just work.
I would normally recommend against Dynaudios in this sittuation. My experience with them has been that they're great for rock but suck for dance.... *but* The BM15As are larger than the Dyns we use. The 6As get pretty cool when you add a sub. If the 15As have close to that kind of extension it might be worth a look.
A very popular set of monitors for the genre are the Mackie HR824s. They have a very deep sound with a lot of depth but a slightly exadurated top end. I havent had much luck with them mixing, but a lot of people love them. They double up as a pair of awsome home playback or theater speakers too.
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dj teknovibe
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| The mackie hr824's are excellent monitors and have a very deep bass extension but its too hyped so you'd need some bass trapping to tame the exessive bass if you wanna be able monitor accurately. Also the mackies have a dome tweeter too, which, after a couple of hours can slightly fatigue your ears. Another excellent option is the genelec 1029's and the genelec 1091 subwoofer. They are totally fantastic, acurate, clean, clear and the sub is just the same too. Brilliant combination. I used the dynaudio bm15a's for dance music and got on perfect. My mixes translated so brilliantly and sounded exactly like it had been made in a pro studio. And believe me, thats not being a good engineer, thats the dynaudios telling me exactly how the sound is. |
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Mackie have good speakers in general, so i wouldnt question their monitors 
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dj teknovibe
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I to have a pair of mackie hr824s and a pair of hr624's. Both of them made my ears slightly ache after about 2 hours wheras I use to do 14 hour studio sessions with the dynaudio bm15a's and my ears didn't ache at all. I found it harder to mix on the mackies due to the massive bass. I had to have serious 4ft x 2ft and 12" thick bass acoustic absorbers and still the frequency response wasn't as good as the dynaudios which was just accurate as hell. I could hear a pin drop if it was in my mix. Now for dj'ing, maybe the mackies would be a bit better but that bass might get in the way and mask the kick drum a bit, it certainly did for me so it wasn't as easy to hear the beat of a record playing than it was on the dynaudios which wear so clear, it was very hard for me to do 1 single out of time mix, all the beats were disapearing.
You see its nice to have bass, I love massive amounts of bass, but only when listeing, not mixing. Cos the bass masks the kick drum so you cant hear it as clear as you would say, a piano. Good monitors will enable the whole frequency range to be as flat an uncoloured as possible making it so easy to dj using them, that you'll not want to go back to using anything else. But you still have to consider that hardly any clubs have sound systems as accurate as a studio monitor so its also a good idea to have 2 sets of speakers, 1 set of monitors for doing studio mix sets and another pair of not very accurate speakers for getting use to coloured sound, cos thats what the sound in clubs is like coloured. If you only have a pair of studio monitors and aren't use to mixing on club systems or any p.a speakers, then you'll have trouble mixing at that volume and on speakers which aren't accurate as the monitors you got at home.
Its totally up to you what you go for but I thought i'd let you know this fact. |
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Kelly
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Teknovibe made a good point about the ear fatigue. The HR824s definetly have ear fatigue problems going on with the top end. Very annoying if you're right up on them.
The low end build-up goes away in large rooms where you can place them far from walls. The entire rear side of the HR824 is semi-open back because it uses a large passive radiator (speaker). That's what gives it it's low end... but it's a problem when it's right up on a wall.
I think any of these monitors will potentially work. The problem now is finding which one is right for you. The only way to do that is to listen to them.
The Mackies and Krks should be easy to find. Dyns are pretty common as well but you might have some trouble finding the bm15as at a store to listen on. Atleast they are here in the US.
Both the KRKs and the HR824s have a slightly scooped hi-fi kind of sound. The Dyns are probably more flat.
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Yeah the dynaudio's have the best sound too. Unless you've got a room like mine which is 16ft x 9ft x 8ft high, you're gonna suffer from a way too much bass.
Ifr you cant afford the dynaudio bm15a's try the bm6a's cos they are fatastic monitors too. They dont go down as deep as the bm15a's but hell, they are brilliant. You know the event tr-8's have a very nice sound to them and the bass isn't massive like the mackies so they might be better monitors for your purpose. You have to remember that when getting monitors which delve down as deep into the low frequency like to about 30-40hz you need bass trapping like I said. The event tr-8's goes down to 35hz but the response down there is hyped in an acoustically untreated room. |
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MattReverie
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| Posted: Sun, 23 Sep, 2007 7:34 Post subject: |
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Hey guys thanks heaps for all your help. I have used the KRK monitors in another studio and they sound awesome but I've been told they are too bassy. The ones I used were the 8 inch. The generlec monitors sound awesome too! I have them where I study music tech and so far I think are the best monitors I've heard.
I have just upgraded to Logic 8 and since the surround is meant to be great I am thinking of getting surround speakers. At SAE they have the bluesky monitors (surround). Maybe if theyre not too expensive I'll get them.
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