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bigbear Just popping in

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Posted: Sat, 16 Feb, 2008 17:52 Post subject: Mixed Tapes legally? |
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| I'm trying to do mixed tapes but how do you do it legally? especially for someone like me on my level. |
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TigerLand Moderator


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Posted: Sat, 16 Feb, 2008 19:27 Post subject: |
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As long as the tracks arent singles then its totaly fine to do mix tapes,as long as they are mixed together its totaly legal. If your planning on selling them online and in shops then i'm sure youv got to contact the record companys for the use of those tracks. _________________ Back In Business! |
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Anthony Paul Contributing Member


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Posted: Wed, 20 Feb, 2008 14:22 Post subject: |
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Yea you can mix whatever you want together for any purpose other than selling it. As soon as a penny or more is exchanged it becomes illegal. Up till that point though, you can do whatever with it. If you dont own the rights tot he song you cannot get money for it. Its that simple. _________________ www.myspace.com/dj_anthonypaul |
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bigbear Just popping in

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Posted: Thu, 21 Feb, 2008 3:13 Post subject: |
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But I thought that you could not even pass it out because that was illegal.
What about this BILLBORD.COM Check this and tell me what you think?MTV so would it be a crime to charge lets say a dollar for the time and to put it toward buying a pack of cds? |
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Anthony Paul Contributing Member


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Posted: Thu, 21 Feb, 2008 14:29 Post subject: |
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Anthony Paul Contributing Member


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Posted: Thu, 21 Feb, 2008 14:29 Post subject: |
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| bigbear wrote: |
| But I thought that you could not even pass it out because that was illegal. |
Legal.
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| so would it be a crime to charge lets say a dollar for the time and to put it toward buying a pack of cds? |
Illegal. _________________ www.myspace.com/dj_anthonypaul |
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bigbear Just popping in

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Posted: Thu, 06 Mar, 2008 23:08 Post subject: |
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Legal issues in the U.S.
One important distinction between homemade mixes and retail compilations of pop music is that the latter generally obtain permissions for the use of copyrighted songs, while the former do not. As a result, mixtapes such as those produced and sold by club DJs in the 1970s are illegal (although rarely, if ever, prosecuted) under the definition of fair use expressed in the Copyright Act of 1976[citation needed]. Most mixtape enthusiasts assume that private mixtapes are inoffensive from a fair use standpoint, but this is far from clear. An article in the New York Times cites Frank Creighton, a director of anti-copyright infringement efforts for the Recording Industry Association of America, as saying that "money did not have to be involved for copying to be illegal."[4] While mixes on cassette tapes may not have inspired the wrath of the record industry in the past, Mr. Creighton said, "digital mixes have better sound quality." And given the proliferation of CD burning for friends and relatives, "it would be naive of us to say that we should allow that type of activity", he said. Others have argued that the Audio Home Recording Act protects the noncommercial use of home recording devices. |
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rich.bronson Just popping in

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Posted: Wed, 12 Mar, 2008 13:50 Post subject: |
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I understand the laws the U.S. has against this type of stuff, but I disagree. I definitely don't think it should be illegal if no money is involved. _________________ Dance, dance, dance all night long. |
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BalistiK TruGroover


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Posted: Wed, 12 Mar, 2008 14:11 Post subject: |
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| rich.bronson wrote: |
| I understand the laws the U.S. has against this type of stuff, but I disagree. I definitely don't think it should be illegal if no money is involved. |
i guess its not about the money as such but the reproduction of it _________________ "Yeh, I'm a club head. What of it? I dance Better then you. Your a punk! You bounce your head up and down, I move my feet around. I feel the rhythem; You feel the scream. The Difference between you and me:
I'll save my breath, but i'm gonna club 'till I die"
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djgeezer Junior Member


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Posted: Wed, 12 Mar, 2008 14:20 Post subject: |
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I used to sell them back when they were really tapes, and then CD's. Once the DRM (digital rights management) movement started, and all the lawsuits followed, most DJ's, including some big radio jocks I know, stopped selling using the traditional methods.
I would say first it depends on where you live (U.S., UK, etc.) and how you go about the sales. I've seen some DJ's setup corporations, and then handle any exchange of monies as either donations or charges for consultative services. There are always options, but the only ones that seem to not be bothered are the DJs who are popular enough that they're doing the artists a big favor by including their music in the playlists they use.
Just my 2 cents from an old school guy. |
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Nicky H Contributing Member


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Posted: Wed, 12 Mar, 2008 15:18 Post subject: |
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Hmm, I think it will depend on the scale your selling them. If its just to friends or people in bars/clubs where you dj you should be ok.
If you get some cd's printed and bang them on eBay in their hundreds then you are asking for trouble.
Stick to the first option and even if record companies found out the worst they would do is ask you to stop - the songs are mixed so they aint gonna be ripped to the net and shared - small fry to record companies me thinks.
In the early 90's I used to sell mix tapes out of a plastic bag on the main street in Leeds on a Saturday - armed with a Walkman so people could listen.
It was easy then cos clubbers stood out a mile with their bright green/pink/blue Kickers and their dungarees - and there were no real mixtapes you could buy then either... ahhh the memories _________________ Love house till I die  |
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Anthony Paul Contributing Member


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Posted: Wed, 12 Mar, 2008 16:07 Post subject: |
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LOL I still have mix tapes from the late 90s in a drawer in my bedroom. I wonder what they sound like now. Dont care much about the sound quality but just whats on them. Havent listened to them in years!!! _________________ www.myspace.com/dj_anthonypaul |
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djgeezer Junior Member


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| I actually had to go out and BUY a cassette deck (for $15 no less) so I could convert all the old tapes I had to MP3's, just so that I could archive them to a DVD. It took me a few months to get there, but it was worth knowing all the radio spots and "for sale" mixes done are now preserved for my grandkids to make fun of. |
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Anthony Paul Contributing Member


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TigerLand Moderator


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Posted: Sat, 15 Mar, 2008 7:51 Post subject: |
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| Anthony Paul wrote: |
| LOL I still have mix tapes from the late 90s in a drawer in my bedroom. I wonder what they sound like now. Dont care much about the sound quality but just whats on them. Havent listened to them in years!!! |
Cant beat those old mix tapes with all the classics
Sooooooooooo many classics back in the day and yet only a handful of them get remixed or played to death on compilation releases. _________________ Back In Business! |
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