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Ok, I have decided to get me some decent monitors... I would like to get the cheapest, best I can get! lol
Also is there anything like headphone monitors?
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| Posted: Tue, 25 May, 2004 15:14 Post subject: |
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| whats your price budget? |
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| Posted: Tue, 25 May, 2004 15:55 Post subject: |
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well... The cheapest, the better lol... I don't really have that much... It's around 242 Euros...
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| Posted: Wed, 26 May, 2004 6:07 Post subject: |
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hmz... I just though of that I had another set of headphones... Mainly for my mp3 player, but I plugged them into my pc, and the sound got a lot clearer!
[url]http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/02ProductDetailCall?ReadForm&Portable+Stereophones^KSC55[/url] this is what I've got...
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| Posted: Wed, 26 May, 2004 15:43 Post subject: |
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Ok mate heres the big decision you have to make....
Two types of monitors. Passive & Active.
Passive speakers are much cheaper but you also have to buy an amplifier to power them, and there are so many to choose from matching the two up isnt easy.
Active have they're own intregrated amplifier/s. This means, you plug straight into them and you have sound. No Amp required.
Ok, the benifits are huge. The internal amp and speakers are perfectly matched so the power you can get out of them is maximised.
They are much harder to blow as your only putting input into them, they're amplifiing their own signal so if they're processing too much power, they'll cut out.
And the main point for monitor speakers in general.....
Studio monitors are built specifically with a flat eq response. Generally, home speakers OR headphones are tweaked for optimum sound quality (normally beefed up highs & mids) thus the sound you hear isnt actually how your mix sounds. Flat equalisation means you can judge your mix much more accurately.
Obviously room acoustics makes a huge difference to how you percive your mix, but then thats just going one big step further.
Ok so active (or powered) speakers are the ones to get. Save the money you have and look into the following.
Tannoy Reveals (active) £299 (pair) --- These are replacing the industry standard Yamaha NS10's that you can find worldwide in studios.
Alesis M1 Active Mk2 £249 (pair) - Recently gone down in price. Very good and acurate sound
Ok and finally, some monitors that are right up your street. I understand that money is tight and these next monitors made by Behringer who are a reliable buget company that do actually compete and will do your mix wonders.
BEHRINGER TRUTH B2030A £195 (pair). Heres what Studiospares say about them.....
"The Behringer Truth B2030A has all of the great features of an active Truth monitor packed in a compact cabinet! It’s a high-resolution, active 2-way reference studio monitor that is perfect for nearfield monitoring applications, from small mixing environments to multi-channel surround setups.
Despite its small size, the Truth B2030A can achieve a peak output level in excess of 113dB SPL. Powered by separate 75- and 35-Watt built-in amplifiers with an active crossover, these monitors provide ultra-linear frequency response from 50Hz to 21kHz.
A long-throw 6 ¾†woofer with a special polypropylene diaphragm delivers smooth, deep bass, while an extremely high-resolution HF driver delivers highs that are crystal-clear and full of detail. The unique Behringer wave guide and the extremely low-distortion crossover network produce an absolutely linear phase response with excellent sound dispersion and stereo imaging"
Im sure you can convert the currencies yourself. These last monitors are definatelly worth looking at. Look into it, try www.studiospares.co.uk
Hope this can help you out, tell me if you take it further.!!!
Rendall
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| Posted: Wed, 26 May, 2004 17:34 Post subject: |
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aww, they're so darn expensive! Judging by Rendall's post, there isn't these so called headphone monitors? The sony one looks good, and by the description it is good... I just want to hear your opinion on it, since I know I have afford that one, lol! (but then again, if it isn't real I better begins saving some money... No more coke, no more candies...  )
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| Posted: Wed, 26 May, 2004 17:46 Post subject: |
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Right TGL. I actually own the Sony MDVR700's. The ones above the 500's. Excellent headphones. The 500's are really good as well. But they're for DJ use. In studios you'll find they uses a decent pair of Beyer's, the industry standard.
Ok, lets put it like this. The Sony headphones will last a very long time. If you could see yourself within the next year getting hold of the rest of the cash for the Behringer monitors, then save save save. If you really cant see yourself getting the cash then by all means get the headphones. But I they're designed for DJing no matter what the description may imply. If you do go for headphones, look at anything around the same price by Beyer. They are professional studio headphones (no swivel mechanism, just good rugged design).
So TGl its down to you mate. If you can save up the money and be patient, buying the monitors will be well worth it. You wont belive how different your music sounds. If you cant wait, by all means.
The decision is yours my friend.....
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| Posted: Wed, 26 May, 2004 18:13 Post subject: |
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I can see myself producing at the age of 30, so I'll probably get me some real hard ass monitors by then, but for now I've got more things to spend money on... I am soon turning 16, and I have to get myself a moped, you know? ;)
I'll take a look at Beyer! 
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| Posted: Thu, 27 May, 2004 14:01 Post subject: |
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Yes do my friend. Those headphones, they're simple, you'll notice that straight away. But they will give you a really good sound. The closest flat sound to monitors anyway. £99 for a good pair.
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So TGL did you invest in some headphones???
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yeah I did... I saw that I hadn' got as much money as I first thought I had, so I went for the sony headphones... I think they're quite good... I heard the difference right away! And I found out that Airbase uses the MDR-V700 
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Also i have been told that when buying Moniters - you should buy Near Field Moniters.
they are meant to be better.
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was just readin thru my old music mags and spotted this article.
in was in Music Tech Mag and there was dis bloke asking wot moniters he should get and they recommended a pair of Active NearField Moniters like i mentioned above.
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| yeah I did... I saw that I hadn' got as much money as I first thought I had, so I went for the sony headphones... I think they're quite good... I heard the difference right away! And I found out that Airbase uses the MDR-V700 |
not bad for $ 79.99
how you finding them after some use? |
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| Posted: Sat, 03 Jul, 2004 0:27 Post subject: |
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Active just means the speakers are independently powered so no amp is required. As I mentioned on my previous post this will only benifit you.
'Near Field' means simply that. These speakers are designed for close proximity monitoring as opposed to 'Mid Field' monitors. Mid-Field monitors are bigger, have a bigger low frequency response and would be placed further away.
So yes, if you are investing in your first pair of monitors you buy Near Field Active speakers. Remember that unless you have jack or XLR outputs on your PC you will need a basic mixing desk. Although spending a bit on a mixing consle will do you favours in the long run. Even if you are just software based there will be a time when you get into recording. Then you have to think about Microphones! Thats another story altogether!
On that note, the guy that I work with & I are just coming onto that now. We've had to put up with using an SM58 so far. Thats a live mic and not for recording (generally).
Look at the post Recording - Microphones for more info!
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